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Getting rid of icloud

When, years ago, apple offered the option to sync my photos to their cloud I accepted the offer. At first I didn’t really think about it, but later on I realised that all my pictures are now accessible to an american company, which is ridiculous. Here’s how I got rid of icloud for my pictures.

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DIY syncing

The nice thing about syncing your photos to a service like icloud is that your photos will not be gone if you lose your phone. There are options to host these kinds of services yourself. I chose immich, an open source project, which is really well designed1. Immich runs on a raspberry pi here at home. I put all my photo’s into immich, not just the pictures I took with my iphone. Everything is in there, also the pictures I took decades ago with my very first digital camera, and also the pictures I take with my dslr-camera. I can now browse through my complete, decades spanning photo archive, directly from my phone, and from my mac, wherever I am. I love it.

Backing up

Before you start deleting your photos from icloud, make sure you have a solid backup plan. The complete immich photo library is backed up to another harddrive, here at home, daily. It’s also backed up to an offsite disk, hosted by a european company in europe. So if something happens to my house, I still have my images. I would prefer to do this without using any company, but I don’t have a second house, so I can’t do this myself2.

This should be a solid backup strategy: if something happens to the main disk, I have a backup disk. If disaster strikes and something happens to both disks here at home, I have a remote backup. And if disaster happens simultaneously here at home and in the remote server location I probably don’t care about my pictures anymore.

Deleting photos from icloud

Deleting photos from icloud is a bit harder than you might think. On my iphone I first went to my icloud settings and disabled the option to sync my photos. I then chose to delete all my pictures from my phone. I can acces them via the immich app, I don’t need the photos app anymore. Then on my mac I selected all the photos in my library and deleted them. You might think that this is it, but apple doesn’t delete all images right away, it puts them in a pre-delete place for 30 days called recently deleted items. There I found the option to delete all items from the recently deleted items list, and when it was done I switched of the Sync to icloud option in the preferences.

I assumed that all my pictures were now deleted from icloud, but they were not. I logged in to icloud with a browser, went to the photos section, and to my surprise I found that all my pictures were still there, in still accessible in the recently deleted items section. So I selected all of them, clicked the delete all button, and was prompted with the message that you cannot delete more than 1000 picture at a time. This means you have to manually select 1000 pictures, hit the delete button, and repeat that until all pictures are gone. Which is what I did. You can also just wait for 30 days.

All my pictures are now removed from icloud3, and they are fully backup up, under my own control.

  1. Its business model is a bit shady though, it is fully paid for by a foundation which is fully funded by one single american billionaire, damnit!
  2. Maybe an offsite disk ring would be a good idea, where I backup my stuff to a disk in your house, and you back your stuff up at someone else’s house, who backs it up at my place.
  3. I assume, but there is no way to check if apple really doesn’t keep a backup.